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Indeed, visitor's name is "visitor" for a reason, I guess he doesn't want to commit to the necessary things =/ or maybe he just wanted to read a bit of our journey and then start his own but then he got stuck.... (Just assuming here) How did you create silence in your life? What needs was the gaming answering for you? How did you get it replaced? (No need to elaborate if you don't feel lie it 🙂 You may also just send me to certain of your journal entries :)) Hey, I feel your comment has a lot of things I agree with. I hope @visitor really does consider some of the things you are saying. Like I wouldn't put him down, since he is having the same fight we all are, but I would indeed say that a journal could be beneficial, and committing to starting his own journey instead of talking himself out of it by putting others down. another quote about discipline "Discipline equals frreedom" - Jocko Willink On the other hand though, habits may be even mre powerful, note that too 😉 Thanks for taking your time to comment and in general following up on me much. Really appreciate that! P.S. A support system is something essential, and I certainly feel some support from you, so don't under-estimate your comments. 🙂

Entry 17.12 (Written on 18.12) Day 449: No Useless Videos Day 447: Sticking to Food schedule Day 50: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 40: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -When realizing I came to the medical center for an appointment on a wrong day, quickly going back home and losing minimal time, instead of staying there and trying to get an immediate appointment -3 hours deliveries -Measuring the amount of teeth on the chainring that needs replacement twice,and finding oneoption that seems to be at a fine price and a fit. (Not yet ordering though) 1 Thing I could do better -last three pomodoros when eating I could have kept working on the current project while eating, since I wasn't doing something that required my mouth instead of working on the next, which I guess I just found simpler so it was some sort of an escape... Out of timframe: 6 min plan tomorrow( including GQ) 2 min flaxchia 16 min from workout (Then getting back on track by the fact that medical appointment was cancelled. 12 min prep food (lunch/dinner) 10 min during visualization and organizing to leave 10 min after apartment meeting (One apartment mate was late 15 minutes to it's beginning, so I sort of tried to compensate subconsciousle I guess.) Tasks reduced No doctor appointment (30 minutes) -3 hrs deliveries instead of 3 30

Entry 16.12 (Written on 17.12) Day 448: No Useless Videos Day 446: Sticking to Food schedule Day 49: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 39: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Having made a weekly plan. with 1 miscalleneous tas each day -Back home at 22 25. -Cleaning up room floor including moving all furniture. 1 Thing I could do better -Break down my comment to visitor, because I did it at the expense of the weekly plan. Out of timframe: About 30 minutes GQ. 53 minutes cleaning up room (1 hr 38 instead of 45 minutes) - well it was the first time i did it with the current tasklist, I think from here on it will improve Flaxchiaquinoa - 7 min 15 minutes outgoing call to mother(unplanned, because she said it was urgent) 46 minutes during pomodoros ( 9 minutes of which for measuring chainring size for bike to know what to order, and about 20 more for food, other 17 minutes just gathered up by 1-3 minutes late at breaks here and there) All at the expense of delveries, (5 hrs instead of 8 I guess subconsciously I allowed it since I made 29 deliveries yesterday and just needed 11 more for the weekend bonus. plust I'm really worried about the air pollution, and my mask seems to cause me to breathe hot air into my eyes all the time making them dry and sore.

Hi visitor, you know, there's not one way to live. It all depends who you strive to be like. The people I want to be like guided me to care about time more than money (Countless books) Setting definite timeframes for schedule (Nir Eyal - Indistractable) Setting numeric goals, which helps "Gamify" life (Flow - Mihaly Csikszekmihaly) Writing things I want to accomplish in the moment for later and making them all in bulk (Getting Things Done - David Allen) Again focus on schedule according to values (7 Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen Covey) They also taught me that people around me will naturally be trying to get me down, and that it is something they do subconsciously, especially when my goals seem to be reaching much farther than they are trying to. (The Boron Letters - Gary Halbert) I am not sure that's what you are doing, but from the outset it seems so. So perhaps again dig down and ask yourself, are you really being your 100%? Or are you not, and you're trying to justify it to yourself by putting me down? All this might hurt, but I'm telling you the truth, because you came here to this forum to accomplish a goal to quit games and you are a lot like myself in that aspect and I want to help you accomplish that goal! I am pretty sure that justifying lack of discipline is not the way to do it. Anyway, I might be wrong. As I said there's not one way to live life. But again I'll repeat myself. If the things you are doing are honestly suggested by the people you want to be like, please disregard all I've said. Also, I am not in direct opposition to "Letting go and walk and let mind wonder" in fact that is a regular daily part of my activities, along with meditation. But the "letting lose and giving reign to instant self" is something that is very frowned upon by the people I want to be like. I devoted about 20 minutes to this message, so here, you've got more than my parents did from me in months. I really hope you look deep down and ask yourself if you are doing your 100% and if you're accomplishing the goal you came here for. Because if not, consider reading the books I've suggested. (After all I've been clean from gaming for more than two years now, and I guess that's somewhere you want to be, isn't that right?) Please do not write unless you have something constructive to say. That means NOT: What I shouldn't do and how stupid I am etc. But INSTEAD: What I should do in your opinion and how it helped you from your experiences. And again, all I've said is just from my perspective and how I see things, I might be wrong in anything. Feel free to tell me if you think so (but please with examples from your own life and how it helps you. ) Thanks, best wishes, and let us - gamequitters, be gamequitters! Give 'em hell visitor. Edit: P.S. Here are two ways to help you get started reading the books(If you still aren't of course): 1. Set habit of 5 pages daily, just hold on for 21 days, then it should be easier. This worked great for me in the beginning for a few years, but now I mostly listen to them. 2. Get them as audiobooks and prooflisten to them during food or while driving etc. Then if you want to get deeper you may read the physical book or just re-listen ( I do it when I prepare food- currently it's about 30-40 minutes daily )

Entry (15.12)Written on 16.12 Day 447: No Useless Videos Day 445: Sticking to Food schedule Day 48: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 38: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -10 pomodoros -7 hrs deliveries (29 deliveries overall) -Very close to schedule, overall out of timeframe about 20 minutes before deliveries and 25 during 1 Thing I could do better -Return home at specified 10:10, especially when I saw that I already have 27 deliveries, and schedule said, continue 'till 22 30 if not have 20 deliveries. This way I would write GQ entry earlier, which always saves time, since the more time pases, the more time it takes me to reacall what happened the same day Out of timframe: As stated above - 20 minutes before and 25 after. the before was just because of pomodoro breaks (Mostly food, and a few minutes here and there late from the break + foodprep Relatively this is very minor (I felt guilty for yesterday's complete deviation from schedule, I guess it prompted me to act more disciplined and according to my values.)

Entry (14.12)Written on 16.12= Day 446: No Useless Videos Day 444: Sticking to Food schedule Day 47: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 37: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -10 pomodoros -3 hrs deliveries -Quickly deciding to order much groceries from the "nut store" I usually buy by writing an organized list and writing where I'm planning to get all the things that are left. 1 Thing I could do better -Starting from calling my father during breakfast preparation, I let myself loose... I answered: -A spam call (Even though I did call them back on pause and not in middle of pomodoro) which went 13 minutes out of time frame (Apparently some sort of scam - telling me someone is trying to use my bank account abroad, and that I need to file a police complaint. When I refused they told me that they're going to hand in an application to block my bank account O_O so that it wouldn't be used by scammers... Don't know where this was leading but that;s what it was) -One call from father's wife regarding chlorella delivery from germany -Another call frm potential job (Selling insurances) I could have turned it down earlier by asking how many hours it requires and where it's located - 7 hrs and 30 minutes bike ride accordingly to one side -Returned call to father's wife from my own initiative to solve chlorella delivery problem possibly (Those three took 31 minutes out of timeframe) then I -Received yet another call from father's wife (+10 minutes) on the same subject -Another call from potential job place (Selling office equipment) - (+4 minutes) this time I was a bit faster on turning them down though... -Outgoing call regarding understanding whether cranberries that are available in the shop I purchase from today are with natural apple juice extract or somewhat artificial (+31 minutes out of timeframe) -Outgoing call during visualization to find out which bike parts to order -Outgoing call regarding cranberries since still didn't get an answer. Bottom line: After 1-2 minutes of figuring out what's up with each call I could have told them to call back on Sunday, especially the potential jobs. I understand how important it is to answer those since it could make me lose opportunities, but my time is also not limitless... Same is true with father;s wife even though I tried to be concise, could be more concise, ask her that too Activities that suffered from the changes I'm not going into more details since I already wrote much. Butoverall instead of leaving for deliveries at 16 40 as planned I left at 19 30 (So I lost 2 hours and 50 minutes of deliveries)

Hmmmm, as regarding it affecting my productivity... It definitely puts restraints, and definitely comes at the expense of social activities as I've said before, as well as engaging with the world. Although I do have some rules which help me deal with it. The first one that comes to mind is that I allow myself to call people despite it being not written in schedule. Because if it's important enough to call, it's important enough to deviate from schedule for it, that said I try to be super concise in the calls. Also, I allow myself to open whatsapp for example or youtube if it is directly related to the activity I'm doing and is needed to complete it. This is definitely not perfect, and I do miss things of course because of not managing to answer people on time. For example I've recently discovered after 6 weeks, that some girl wrote me a flattering message on facebook (3 weeks passed, still didn't answer... and there are many more such examples.) To summarize: It definitely limits me, but I do not believe letting go of schedule is the solution, should maintain the overall discipline and possibly add some planned exceptions as I go along. That's the most effective way I found to treat all of this for now. If you have any better ideas however, I am open to hearing. Thanks for your comment. Edit: Food schedule update remains completely the same apart for added kale in the second meal - 40grams until it runs out. , and mushrooms will be either shiitake portobello or champignon i still don't know, most probably shiitake, in any case the overall size remains the same - up to 50g (cooked)

Awesome! If you get results that's all that counts, however, the progress in workouts comes at the expense of other things, which is completely fine. But if you don't plan your day, you don't know at the expense of which activities, and may regret it in the long haul. Deciding not to plan exactly what you do during your workout in a specific timeframe is one thing. Not knowing how much time you want to devote to it overall is another 🙂

Entry 13.12 Day 445: No Useless Videos Day 443: Sticking to Food schedule Day 46: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 36: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Ordered new casette for my bike as planned (chain and crankset-front gears are left) -5 pomodoros for job search -2 Calls to potential bike buyers even though they didn't answer 1 Thing I could do better -Having set aside some time for organizing groceries in fridge. Leaving timeframe blank today =/ perhaps to be continued tomorrow, no promises. Edit: Out of Timeframe 8 minutes GQ entry (Planning tomorrow) 10 minutes during training and shower about 30 min during breakfast prep, mainly to call bike suspension maintenance services and find out their prices 27 min food in fridge, making sure all groceries arrived, etc. 4 min At this point already 71 minutes behind, almost all was at the expense of job search 17 more during blog pomodoros The rest was more or less on time. Activities that suffered from the changes 1.5 hrs job search

Entry 12.12(Written on 13.12 Day 444: No Useless Videos Day 442: Sticking to Food schedule Day 45: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 35: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Despite having dozed off for about an hour, leaving for deliveries for 50 minutes even though it was raining a lot. -10 pomodoros -When I saw that I've eaten up the day and barely had 3 hours for deliveries, eating as in a day that I do not do deliveries, to fit into the food schedule, despite the fact I planned to eat more that day and it was painful 1 Thing I could do better -Once I allowed myself to get out of timeframe on the purchase, and talk with the apartment mate etc. to figure out how to allow her to order in my account everything started to collapse like a castle... I also allowed myself to weigh myself in the close medical center (7 minutes) and make an appointment to a doctor to set blood test (5 minutes) (Perhaps it was the other way around though...) Anyway, when doing some unregular task, leave more time in schedule for it and really stick to the devoted timeframe Out of timeframe 9 minutes - planning next day(I guess also GQ) 58 minutes - order food from new store + cooperation with apartemnt mate + weigh myself + set blood test + try to figure out how to order stuff by weight at new store and compare prices to old one 2 - flax chia 1 minutes - meditate 17 minutes - training 6 min prepfood 15 min pomodoro breaks 34 min continuing to figure out whether the store received my remark as to units insstead of kgs and finalizing order after apartment mate went thhrough it without planned time for it... 28 more pomodoro breaks + about 1.5 hrs sleep All that was at the expense of job search and deliveries. 1 hour and almost 3 hours accordingly. Not exacting since i'm out of timeframe. Bye 🙂

I also agree that some choices need to be made in the present. But not most of them, I believe that those that may not be predicted, like, for example you forgot that you had to buy a food supplement you are running out of and didn't include time to purchase it in the schedule, and just for the sake of the example it may take 20 minutes to do. Now you have a choice. What is your priority? Is it health? Or is it schedule? Or maybe it is the job you have to work at? For me In my last monthly plan I wrote the schedule as number one, so in those unexpected situations I try to act accordingly. Being is the present is again super important I agree. No multitasking, and completely immersing yourself in the task. But still having trouble agreeing on letting yourself completely loose.

Entry 11.12 Day 443: No Useless Videos Day 441: Sticking to Food schedule Day 44: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 34: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Back home at 22 00 -Having devoted 20 minutes to finances (A long neglected task) -Making two calls in the sphere of job search 1 Thing I could do better -Get faster out of bed with more momentum. (Since I got a bit too thoughtful and right on the first task of the day (Planning next day) slipped 15 minutes... (While writing GQ entry) Out of timeframe 15 minutes - gq 4 minutes - workout 5 minutes - prepare food 24 minutes - pomodoro breaks and cooking 13 minutes - visualization All that was at the expense of job search - About 1 hour instead of two

I also had some breaking points, indeed I still do neglect my social aspect consciously and that is something I need to tend to. There's also something to be said about failing to plan (Not taking the immediate self into account) I definitely agree that emotion must be taken into account, because we mostly act just because of emotion. That said, while I think that the immediate self must be taken into account in the long haul (Write down what you feel in the moment to edit it in later), and in some cases for activities like workout you may write in advance - I allow myself to go 30 minutes over at the expense of doing laundry for example beforehand. But, not let it free reign anyway, (and delay gratification in the short haul) in my opinion. There's a fun sentence saying - If you're failing to plan, you're planning to fail. I still agree with it. I also believe that planning and controlling our "immediate self" is what differentiates us from animals. Anyways I'll comment upon the rest of the comment later, so don't comment on it yet, maybe I'll have more stuff to say before you want to. (Breaking it down to fit into the timeframe) So... To be continued xD

Entry 10.12 (Written on 11.12) Day 442: No Useless Videos Day 440: Sticking to Food schedule Day 43: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 33: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Created system image backup -10 pomodoros -3 hrs deliveries 1 Thing I could do better -gotta plan next food schedule a bit different to see if i can cause myself to be less sleepy

@Pochatok @visitor @FDRx7 Thank you very very much for following up on me and taking the time to comment. It will take me a bit of time to answer though as you have figured by the style of my journal I guess 😛 Thanks for the understanding hopefully 🙂

Entry 9.12 (Written on 10.12) Day 441: No Useless Videos Day 439: Sticking to Food schedule Day 42: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 32: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Cleaning apartment for half an hour, as planned in monthly and weekly schedule, way to go. And I even was super close to the timeframe. 35 minutes including washing floor, moving all furniture in the kitchen, cleaning bathroom mirror, washing feet and putting rag to dry -Planned The week -Woke up at 05 15 to manage the two above tasks and the 26 remaining deliveries, because yesterday I only accomplished 14 1 Thing I could do better -I am reading The Boron Letters, and i got reminded of a greqt idea in great words. that is to do Important and Not urgen tasks (Q2 - Quarter 2 out of 4) I could have made time for one such miscallaneous task each day when planning weekly schedule, and I could start with researching and ordering a casette (back gears), chain and crankset(front gears)

Entry 812 (Written on 9.12) Day 441: No Useless Videos Day 439: Sticking to Food schedule Day 42: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 32: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Having changed break pads at store, even though it cost me a helluva lot of money, but i figured, I already did the mistake so I recovered and moved forward quite quickly. (I paid for the break pad about 20$ whereas the one I have at home cost me about 1-2$ all because I just assumed it woldn't cost that much, and just let the mechanic install it.. -When I figured out that my mask is a bit lacking in vacuum, taking it off for a few deliveries, then puting it back on, and trying to ride with one eye closed, than trying to ride with one hand putting pressure on the mask and the other on the bike. -10 pomodoros 1 Thing I could do better -Put more time in schedule for food preparation, since I have planned friday as the food cooking day

Entry 7.12 (Written on 8.12) Day 440: No Useless Videos Day 438: Sticking to Food schedule Day 41: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 31: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -4.5 hrs deliveries (+ half an hour more when apartment mate cancelled meeting 30 minutes before, because taking into consideration that half an hour of deliveries will be cut when we'll meet instead of this time) -10 pomodoros again. finishing first review of script. Finally! I've been taring at it very long =/ -Going to fix bike brakes, even though unplanned and even though the mechanic was eventually busy and didn't get to fixing it 1 Thing I could do better Get back home at 22 15 the latest to still have enough time to floss and GQ

I just do something like visualization during that time, and then do not stress to finish so quickly 🙂 or meditation in othe cases( but visualization works best cuz it's 30 minutes long 😄

Entry 6.12 Day 438: No Useless Videos Day 437: Sticking to Food schedule Day 40: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 30: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -4.5 hrs deliveries -10 pomodoros again -Washing sheets 1 Thing I could do better Gotta really set deadlines and stick to them, i think i've lost trust in myself partly, since I'm always setting short term goals for the pomodoros and then not meet them somehow... ponder that

Entry 5.12 (Written on 06.12) Day 437: No Useless Videos Day 436: Sticking to Food schedule Day 39: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 29: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -about 4 hours deliveries -10 pomodoros - not obvious tthese days 😉 -Finally ordering chlorella, plus figuring out how to ship from israel to germany (Well not really figured out until it's here, but generally speaking :)) 1 Thing I could do better Plan ffor computer backup time instead of the course which got canceled

As Cam says, Social is one of our four basic needs we're trying to fulfill with gaming. I'm also postponing this aspect and focusing on objectibes more. I guess it is something that needs to be taken into account. But better do it in advance and look for some jogging partner online or something I guess (It's just an idea) Instead of choosing it in the moment which will make you feel like you'd failed.... To be honest I know I do not fully understand everything you wrote since you wrote very shortly about your goals and it's a bit difficult to get into your mind, but that's what I have to say from my short observation and partial insights 😉 Same old same old, not letting your immediate self take over 😉

Entry 4.12 (Written on 05.12) Day 436: No Useless Videos Day 435: Sticking to Food schedule Day 38: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 28: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -Transferring payment for insurance onto myself(I've found out I'm under insurance only a few days ago and that my parents were paying O_O -Sticking to schedule I planned before, since I hadn't managed to change it the day before, while replacing the planned job course with personal studies of the subject. -9 pomodoros of marketing studies (At least that =/ ) 1 Thing I could do better -Prioritize 8 hours of sleep, in most of the cases. Plan the planning of the next day earlier, before I start dozing off. Time Lost: 35 min teeth water - late because of writing diary entries 2 min flux chia quinoa (putting in water) 2 min makebed 18 minutes prep food 12 pomodoro breaks 23 breaks, during independent learning for job 82 unplanned nap in the afternoon From here on there was no schedule so I wouldn't know if time was lost or not X_X What I can say however is that about 90 more minutes went for unplanned nap in the eveneing Total lost time: No planned time after job material learning, so I wouldn't even know if time was lost or not The part before that - 174 (2 hrs 54 minutes)

In my opinion, emotions most definitely need to be taken into account in the current moment, but great care must be taken to stick as closely as possible to values you wrote to yourself before. Best case scenario is to put the emotions off, until you may plan rationally for another day without taking them into consideration. (Write down what you feel, and adress it calmly afterwards), in most cases that is. But, if it's something that might cause you to lose a possible job, like it was for me and I must take a decision in the moment, because of changes that did not depend on me, do the best care to take the action needed but still having the values you wrote beforehand in mind. (So I chose to break my rule of not opening whatsap and writing a message, because that's the best way I thought would be in order to react to what the guy told me and also make sure the weekly schedul goes on as planned (I wrote the job course in timeblocks of 7 hours for all 5 weekdays...

Entry 3.12 (Written on 04.12) Day 435: No Useless Videos Day 434: Sticking to Food schedule Day 37: Eating Only between 06:30 and 19:00 (Last bite before 19:00) Day 27: Being in bed before 23:15 3 Things I did right, no matter how small. -attending the course at 08 45 even though it was not planned in the weekly schedule, and adjusting pomodoros to accomodate to total 8 pomodoros ( I was thinking I should do this if it's for a short term learning of like 1-2 weeks, before going back to 10 standard. -When the potential employer called me again telling after all he feels he made a mistake and he wants to "focus on his current new guys before getting a new course out" and feeling stressed, and almost missing food 19:00 deadline because of it, I accidentally noticed that the computer screen said 19:00. While I usually take the watch as my time indicator and it already said 19 01, I guess it still counts, cause I still made the right move of not taking another bite, and throwing the food away even though I was craving for it. -Again not losing my composure at this stressing message, telling the employer I'd like to atleast do some other jobs for him while waiting for another course 1 Thing I could do better -During the food break at job place finish more "thinking of who" time + plan for the fact that if I finish work early, do some "homework" in the ime left Time Lost: Skipping to gather ground