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	Hello there,
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<p style="background-color:#ffffff;border:0px solid #e3e3e3;color:#0d0d0d;font-size:16px;">
	It's been a constant battle for me to limit my gaming time or even quit altogether. I find myself spending countless hours gaming, neglecting my responsibilities, and feeling isolated from friends and family.
</p>

<p style="background-color:#ffffff;border:0px solid #e3e3e3;color:#0d0d0d;font-size:16px;">
	I've tried various methods to control my gaming habits, but nothing seems to work in the long term. I'm worried about the impact it's having on my life and relationships.
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<p style="background-color:#ffffff;border:0px solid #e3e3e3;color:#0d0d0d;font-size:16px;">
	I'd love to hear from others who have faced similar challenges and have successfully overcome or are currently working through gaming addiction.
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<p style="background-color:#ffffff;border:0px solid #e3e3e3;color:#0d0d0d;font-size:16px;">
	What strategies have helped you break free from the grip of gaming?
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<p style="background-color:#ffffff;border:0px solid #e3e3e3;color:#0d0d0d;font-size:16px;">
	How do you cope with cravings and urges to play? And most importantly, how do you rebuild your life outside of gaming?
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<p style="background-color:#ffffff;border:0px solid #e3e3e3;color:#0d0d0d;font-size:16px;">
	Hoping in a quick response.
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<p style="background-color:#ffffff;border:0px solid #e3e3e3;color:#0d0d0d;font-size:16px;">
	Thankyou in advance.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11009</guid><pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 07:58:32 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>What books do you recommend?</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/12165-what-books-do-you-recommend/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>I'm reading "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert Glover as recommended by Cam; in one of his YouTube videos' comments section.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">12165</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:17:48 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Throwing controllers at my TVs</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11245-throwing-controllers-at-my-tvs/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	This year, there were times I damaged TVs over female characters making me play certain video games. First, Disney's Ice Princess (the ice skating movie) made me play Toy Story for the Sega Genesis. Then, a female character from the movie Leap named Felicie made me play Mighty Morphin Power Rangers for SNES. Next, Lucille from A Monster In Paris made me play Sonic Generations on Xbox. Damaging a TV by throwing a controller at it three times caused me to go to the hospital. When I left the hospital, I went on a gaming detox. After that, I decided to get off the detox little by little. As I was getting off the detox, Veruca Salt from the 1971 and 2005 Willy Wonka movies made me play Pac-Man World Re-Pac on my PS4 causing me to break another TV by throwing a PS4 controller at it. Now I'm on another gaming detox until further notice.
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	Hi GQ,
</p>

<p>
	As a former gamer, I was curious about how computer games may affect a child's brain.  My nephew and niece are both younger children, and they are not into video games.  Their parents are, however, heavy gamers in World of Warcraft.  It's a miracle their kids don't even want to play on the computer or phone.  My nephew once told me, "I stare at the computer screen in class all day.  I don't want to do that when I go home!".  Instead, he's involved with soccer, swimming, and just started learning martial arts.  My niece is the quiet artsy one and she is involved with expressive dance, aerobics, and painting.  Her parents showed her how to play Super Mario but it's been three months since that time, and she hasn't shown any interest.  
</p>

<p>
	In my childhood, I did not grow up with video games when I lived in Alberta, Canada.  I was outside playing with the neighborhood kids for most of the afternoons when the weather was nice.  Or I'd go bike riding around the community with my brother.  We'd build snow forts outside in the winter, and wanted to be outside even if it was snowing like a blizzard.  Mum and Pop would bring us to the library to rent books, or games.  They'd drop us off at the pool to take swimming lessons.  And just like almost every other kid in my class, we even had weekly piano lessons.  After school activities included floor hockey (I loved this sport as a kid), ice skating, Girl Scouts, badminton, ping-pong, even music band practice.  I played clarinet in the jazz band.  I did all of this without even touching a video game.  Those were very happy memories, and I am so grateful for my parents who worked their butts off, and paid their hard earned money to enroll their four children into these activities.  
</p>

<p>
	I'm an older adult now, and my entry into video games began about ten years ago.  I played excessively for three years, but then stopped cold turkey for a long time.  Currently, I can't seem to enjoy gaming as much as I did ten years ago.   I feel physically and mentally unwell  sitting down in a chair for more than an hour at a time.  My back hurts, my legs feel numb, my eyes hurt from staring at a computer screen, and it does not help my posture.  Not only that, there are moments I feel higher irritability and frustration.  That's why I am doing a thirty day detox to hopefully reset my mind and body.  If I am experiencing these physiological and mental changes at my age, then how does it compare with a younger person in their teens or twenties?  I had naively assumed that a younger person would naturally have more resilience compared to an older gamer.  But that was absolutely NOT the case after I read a few studies.  
</p>

<p>
	One video demonstrated the blood pressure spike in a young man (early 20's) who was playing Call of Duty.  The researcher took his blood pressure before he started to game, and then after he played CoD for a short session, under five minutes.    His blood pressure escalated from 120/80 to 140 in a matter of <u><strong>three minutes</strong></u>.  it was shocking to watch that happen in real-time.  And he was a healthy person!  How much more damage can that inflict on a person who is unwell with chronic disease?  And what about the brain development in young kids?
</p>

<p>
	So that leads me back to the concern about computer games and a child's neuro-development.  Their brains are still developing, and will continue to develop into their twenties.  I will paste part of an article I recently read online.  <a href="https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/how-do-video-games-affect-the-developing-brains-of-children" rel="external nofollow">https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/how-do-video-games-affect-the-developing-brains-of-children</a>
</p>

<p>
	<span style="color:#2980b9;"><span style="font-size:16px;">"According to a study by the NPD Group, a global market research firm, his gaming obsession isn't unique. Nine out of 10 children play video games. That's 64 million kids—and some of them hit the keyboard or smartphone before they can even string together a sentence. The problem: many researchers believe that excessive gaming before age 21 or 22 can physically rewire the brain.</span></span>
</p>

<p>
	<span style="color:#2980b9;"><span style="font-size:16px;">Researchers in China, for example, performed magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) studies on the brains of 18 college students who spent an average of 10 hours a day online, primarily playing games like World of Warcraft. Compared with a control group who spent less than two hours a day online,<u><strong> gamers had less gray matter (the thinking part of the brain)</strong></u>.</span></span>
</p>

<p>
	<span style="color:#2980b9;"><span style="font-size:16px;">As far back as the early 1990s, scientists warned that because <u><strong>video games only stimulate brain regions that control vision and movement, other parts of the mind responsible for behavior, emotion, and learning could become underdeveloped.</strong></u></span></span>
</p>

<p>
	<span style="color:#2980b9;"><span style="font-size:16px;">A study published in the scientific journal Nature in 1998 showed that playing video games releases the feel-good neurotransmitter dopamine. <u><strong>The amount of dopamine released while playing video games was similar to what is seen after intravenous injection of the stimulant drugs amphetamine or methylphenidate</strong></u>.</span></span>
</p>

<p>
	<span style="color:#2980b9;"><span style="font-size:16px;">Yet despite mounting evidence about the cognitive, behavioral, and neurochemical impact of gaming, the concept of game addiction (online or not) is difficult to define. Some researchers say that it is a distinct psychiatric disorder, while others believe it may be part of another psychiatric disorder. The current version of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM-V, states that more research needs to be done before "Internet Gaming Disorder" can be formally included."</span></span>
</p>

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<p>
	<span style="color:#e74c3c;"><span style="font-size:18px;">So after reading the article, I think that gaming disorder not only includes a psychiatric definition, but also a physiological disorder that can lead to chronic illness.  The video games being made nowadays are deliberately made to captivate young children and create addiction.  You would be naive to think differently about this industry's intentions.  </span></span>
</p>

<p>
	<span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:#e74c3c;">In conclusion, I am going to take a stand against video games for young kids because I know how harmful it can be neurologically, and that it is a very slippery slope that can slide into a potential addiction.  <strong><u>I will NOT be encouraging video games for my young nephew and niece because there are just too many risks.  </u></strong></span></span>
</p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11175</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:54:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>You are not missing out on anything</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/12101-you-are-not-missing-out-on-anything/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	To those (like me) who feel jealous of other people relapsing or "playing some games for 30 minutes on the weekend". Don't worry. You are not missing out on anything. There are only marvelous gains to be had from continuing on this journey without gaming.
</p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">12101</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2025 09:51:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Requesting to be unbanned from the Discord server (I need your support more than ever now)</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11243-requesting-to-be-unbanned-from-the-discord-server-i-need-your-support-more-than-ever-now/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I never thought the ban was fair, as I didn't break any of the rules listed in the server at the time, and my career choice is gaming related. After speaking to a couple of people, I can see why what I said was somewhat inappropriate in that server, but the mods could've at the very least warned me instead of suddenly banning me and then ghost me. Very unprofessional!
</p>

<p>
	I later saw that the r/stopgaming subreddit introduced a new rule: "Do not justify or rationalize gaming." Listen, my intention wasn't to "justify" gaming, but not everyone wants to quit forever. They may still need support and guidance. Whether or not it can be done depends on the individual. Everyone's different. I don't even play every day anymore, because I got bored of games. I've never even had withdrawal symptoms from not playing, it was mostly just a way for me to escape from my terrible upbringing, but it's since become a destructive habit of mine. Nowadays, when I do play, I often just play for 30 minutes up to a couple of hours until I get bored.
</p>

<p>
	I'm actually starting to wonder if I truly was addicted, because school was living hell for me as a kid/teen! I was severely bullied, and my teachers were so bad they failed to even teach me how to add and subtract properly! (at first, I thought I was just a bad student, but in early adulthood, I actually found out that they didn't properly teach me the most basic things!)
</p>

<p>
	During my teens, I knew I wasn't going to get into high school, so I spent my time teaching myself how to code instead, and I'd often play video games for hours on my awful computer without a case (I grew up with a chronically ill mother who couldn't afford to buy me parts for a proper gaming rig). I would actually play minecraft on an integrated intel GPU in the early 2010s.
</p>

<p>
	When I was 16 years old, I was also emotionally blackmailed into a relationship with a girl who ended up committing suicide because I didn't share the same feelings. This absolutely destroyed me at the time, but I've gotten over it now.
</p>

<p>
	When I despite not having a single high school credit managed to get into a game dev college after sending them the source code for a game I wrote, I felt like god had let me into paradise! After moving into the city where the school was located, I was for the first time in my life able to go to parties, nightclubs and bars! 
</p>

<p>
	However, I then managed to use my student loan money to buy parts for the gaming rig I always wanted as a kid. Since then, I started to very often get late for school because I'd game until 5 am. At first, I thought it was an actual addiction (and you could argue it was). But now, I'm starting to think I just wanted to use the gaming rig I never had as a kid!
</p>

<p>
	However, now I'm actually bored of gaming! I thought this would give me everything I wanted, but I was soo wrong!
</p>

<p>
	These days, I actually feel better when I go out for walks than when I play video games on my computer. I don't even feel cravings or anything, never did.
</p>

<p>
	 
</p>

<p>
	 
</p>

<p>
	Now I'll get to why I need your support:
</p>

<p>
	I want to finish my high school education, and I've been admitted to a high school for adults where I'll study for 3 years before getting a piece of paper that says I'm eligible to go to university. I want to do this, partly to prove that I can, but also because I want to study Japanese in Japan afterward. The problem is, I don't really have good study habits, and even though I don't specifically game as much, I easily get distracted even when I try to get things done. This includes YouTube, being on time for school, finishing homework on time, getting exercise, managing your free time and all those things. I'm actually willing to completely cut off gaming for the 3 years I'll be studying. I don't feel the need anymore.
</p>

<p>
	If you're willing to unban me from the Discord server so I can reach out to you for support, I'd greatly appreciate it!
</p>

<p>
	Thank you!
</p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11243</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 00:08:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>With video games i felt good sometimes, without games i feel awful all the time</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/9380-with-video-games-i-felt-good-sometimes-without-games-i-feel-awful-all-the-time/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I was hoping if i went 90 days without video games i would cure my chronic fatigue and depression but its on day 14 now and i know thats not much but its very frustrating to see ZERO benefits despite feeling awful all the time. I think i am just inherently a depressed angry person and there is no way around it. At least with the video games i felt good sometimes even though they also made me angry and depressed and anxious, but without the games i feel just as bad if not worse. 
</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9380</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2020 00:04:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Someone's Unbeatable Grudge Against Me</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10988-someones-unbeatable-grudge-against-me/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Right now, I can update my monthly journal.
</p>

<p>
	Instead, I'm posting here because my safety is at risk. I have already scheduled an appointment with a social worker.
</p>

<p>
	Over the past three months, I have been making great efforts to compromise with my family. Show more initiative at home. 
</p>

<p>
	My sister consistently brings up a gaming incident from approximately thirteen years ago.  
</p>

<p>
	Thirteen Years Ago: 
</p>

<ul>
	<li>
		I made new friends at school, and we all have Steam accounts. 
	</li>
	<li>
		My new friend starts asking me for TF2 items. 
	</li>
	<li>
		I obliged over generic weapons until he asked for my Bill's Hat. (L4D2 Pre-Order Cosmetic)
	</li>
	<li style="color:#0e101a;">
		<span style="color:#0e101a;">After consulting with my sister, she rightfully shut down the trade.</span>
	</li>
</ul>

<p style="color:#0e101a;">
	<span style="color:#0e101a;">Despite preventing the most valuable item from being lost, she continuously brings this up in gaming conversations. </span>
</p>

<p style="color:#0e101a;">
	<span style="color:#0e101a;">I have a theory as to why this is her saving throw against me.</span>
</p>

<ul>
	<li>
		The situation can never be amended.
	</li>
	<li>
		Previous criticisms were actionable and fulfilled. 
	</li>
	<li>
		She left the incident in a superior position. 
	</li>
</ul>

<p>
	I don't know what her end goal is. Does she want my apology? 
</p>

<p>
	My relationship with that friend ended very traumatically. And thus, any time it is brought up in bad faith, I shut down. 
</p>

<p>
	After registering a second Steam account for multiplayer, the initial one automatically became hers. 
</p>

<p>
	What confuses me is her abstinence from all games outside miHoYo's ecosystem. Her Steam account is largely abandoned. 
</p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">10988</guid><pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2024 13:33:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Any inspirational music recommendations?</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/8883-any-inspirational-music-recommendations/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I listen to ALOT of music. It helps me push through most days. I'm not running out but I'm happy for suggestions and for people to drop stuff here for others to listen to. I'll start(I won't use links as I know some people don't like clicking on links, you can just search them up <span><span class="ipsEmoji">🙂</span> ) </span>
</p>

<p>
	<span> This music varies in Genre from Metal, Alternative Rock to Orchestral or Classical Instrumental and Anime theme songs. Post anything, I'll try to check all of them as I listen to just about anything. (I've deliberately avoided game soundtracks)</span>
</p>

<p>
	<span>Back For More - Five Finger Death Punch</span><br />
	Get Lost, Find Yourself - Chunk! No Captain Chunk!<br />
	Vice Grip - Parkway Drive<br />
	Number One - Manowar<br />
	Chaos - I Prevail<br />
	Bow Down - I Prevail<br />
	Crossing Field - AmaLee<br />
	Odds Are - Barenaked Ladies<br />
	Best Day of my Life - American Authors<br />
	Crimson Bow &amp; Arrow - Jonathan Young<br />
	Don't Stop Believing - Journey<br />
	Why Worry - Set It Off<br />
	Undefeated - Skillet<br />
	In Too Deep - Sum41<br />
	Now or Never - Madina Lake<br />
	Master of the Tides - Lindsey Stirling<br />
	Back To Me - Of Mice And Men<br />
	How To Survive - Of Mice And Men (This one is very aggressive so only listen if your into that sort of thing)<br />
	You Say Run - My Hero Academia 2016<br />
	Day of Fate ~Spirit vs Spirit~ - Team Four Star
</p>

<p>
	Anything by Ludovico Einaudi<br />
	I've got alot more but I think this post should end at some point. Lemme know what you've got <span class="ipsEmoji">😉</span>
</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">8883</guid><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2020 21:42:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Been here for years... just found out the source of my addiction</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11037-been-here-for-years-just-found-out-the-source-of-my-addiction/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Ok so I've been on these forums on and off since 2018. They've helped me a lot to deal with my gaming addiction. It's not gone, but I manage it a lot better and my relapses are shorter and less damaging. Longest streak off of games has been 14 months! (edit: checked my journal on here and it was actually 18 months!)
</p>

<p>
	I don't think I'm the typical GQ gamer. I don't do online games at ALL, my jam is single player stuff - grand strategy, city building, that kinda thing. I don't have gamer friends, I've never been part of a guild/clan/whatever. So your mileage may vary.
</p>

<p>
	But a few weeks ago, I was diagnosed with ADHD (combined presentation) at 35 years of age.
</p>

<p>
	And damn, it explains so much.
</p>

<p>
	ADHD comes with low dopamine, so dopamine-boosting behaviors (games, shows... drugs) are particularly addictive for us. In fact, people with ADHD are far more likely to get addicted to substances... and my guess would be it's the same for gaming, too.
</p>

<p>
	I haven't really seen this side of mental health discussed on these forums much (although to be fair, I've been away from this community for a while now, so maybe things have changed). For a long time, I wondered why I was so easily addicted to this stuff when those around me found it no problem to stay away from games if they needed to.
</p>

<p>
	Well, now I know.
</p>

<p>
	Posting this so that others may benefit from it. Check yourself for ADHD symptoms. You don't have to be physically hyper to have it.
</p>

<p>
	Once you understand how your brain works, you can then actually work with it to improve. There are a bunch of things out there for ADHD that can make a huge difference. Not just meds, but those too.
</p>

<p>
	Hope this helps some people out.
</p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11037</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Don't think of Moderation as the End Goal; Think of Sobriety as the End Goal</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11173-dont-think-of-moderation-as-the-end-goal-think-of-sobriety-as-the-end-goal/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hi GQ,
</p>

<p>
	This post is in regards to all the other conversations I've seen here, in r/stopGaming, along with other discussion groups, about achieving moderation. I wanted to speak to this topic because, as someone who has been successfully sticking to important things first for 30+ days now, while having kept casual gaming as a hobby for several years now, I do feel a sense of responsibility to not give the wrong impression.
</p>

<p>
	I do personally believe that we can do anything we want and set our mind to. But I do also want to point out that, in my experience, <strong>moderation by itself isn't what helps me; rather, it's Sobriety which lets me maintain a balanced lifestyle.</strong> Sobriety is what I would say we want to achieve and maintain, and I think it is much more helpful to think of that as the end goal. Sobriety is what lets us truly be clear of mind and aware, letting us do and work on the things which matter most to us.
</p>

<p>
	We are all different. Maybe it's only a few types of games that are addictive for you, maybe it's a majority of them. Or we all may even have other addictions we aren't even aware of yet. Maybe it's just gaming for you, or maybe you could also addicted to gambling, drinking alcohol, smoking weed, social media, overeating, overworking yourself, and so forth. You have to be willing to explore yourself and discover these things.
</p>

<p>
	If you want a good resource for finding out what your Sobriety is like, I suggest you check out the <a href="https://internetaddictsanonymous.org/discovering-sobriety-worksheet-an-introduction-to-internet-addiction-recovery/" rel="external nofollow">Discovering Your Sobriety Worksheet</a> from Internet and Technology Addicts Anonymous (ITAA).
</p>

<p>
	For me, gaming isn't as a whole addictive; but I do recognize that gaming can be triggering for me still, as it can cause me to crave other much more destructive and addictive behaviors. For example, some games can make me want to hop on social media to look for more stuff about that game. Often times this is what has turned a seemingly innocent 1h game session into <em>an 8h doomscrolling session</em>. This is an example of a <strong>middle line</strong> for me, a trigger. I would say that gaming, majority wise, is a middle line for me too; there are other handfuls of games that I can still play and stick to limits with, but it's definitely not necessary or a priority that I play them.
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<p>
	That said, there are also some games which I am way too compulsive with, so much so that the effort to try "moderating" those just isn't a good use of my time; it's simply too much effort and it's just not worth it. Mobile games are particularly bad for me; I don't have a single game on my phone for that reason. They are <strong>bottom lines</strong> for me. Similarly, the majority of social media is also a bottom line, because I am way too compulsive with my use; jumping from subs in Reddit, to different channels on Discord, to endless reels on Instagram, to doomscrolling for Tweets. It is just too much effort for me to try moderating it, for what is very little benefit in comparison to the effort required.
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<p>
	Think of bottom lines as deep dark swamps you get sucked into, very hard to get out of; <strong>we abstain from even getting close to them</strong>. So, even if you can achieve moderation, it may not be with the games you're hoping with now; be honest and ready to cut out those which you are too compulsive with, those which are too much effort to stay balanced with. Personally, I do not see myself ever moderating Empires &amp; Puzzles; this is a game which I was way too addicted to in the past, failed too many times to moderate it, and thus is too much mental effort for me to get to that state for very little benefit. I abstain fully from it instead because it's a much more productive use of my energy, I can instead focus my energy into things that bring me more fulfillment rather than on sticking to a schedule I can hardly maintain with that and similar games.
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<p>
	To maintain your Sobriety, you want to lean into your <strong>top lines</strong>; activities and behaviors you identified that allow you to live a healthier and positive life, and which get you closer to being the person you want to be. This can involve minimal, healthy, positive technology use too. One example I can think of for myself in regards to video games is playing an online Scrabble game with my grandmother who lives far away from me. Intention is the key thing here; in this case, the intention is to foster and grow relationships with people I care about. The game is simply the environment we meet in to accomplish that. But again, this looks different for everyone.
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<p>
	In summary, it's not about moderating; it's not even about whether cold turkey vs moderation is better necessarily. Instead, it's more helpful to think of achieving and maintaining Sobriety as the end goal. This is a state that looks different for everyone, and that is why I am sharing that worksheet; I really recommend doing the exercise yourself to discover what your Sobriety looks like.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11173</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 16:05:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Story: How Video Games waste my Art Talent!</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11012-story-how-video-games-waste-my-art-talent/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I apologize for some typos and grammar issue because I write this post in paper and OCR software can make some mistake to jot down the words.
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<p>
	Hi everyone you can call me Shiratori and I'm 16 years old. When I was a preschoolers, I'm just know myself from being a gifted kid when comes to arts. I always win in art competition in that time and my parents are always proud of me. In fact, I learn to draw first before I learn to read properly.
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<p>
	In the moment that I turn grade one, my one of my relatives gave me a brand new tablet to play games. Since I got hooked in video games, my interest in art fades away. This moment is the time where my passion to arts are gone. Video games are very stimulating and my poor youth brain is being trapped in the virtual world that my progress is nothing.
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<p>
	This chain of routine of going to sleep, wake up, video games, school, video games and sleep is what my life looks like since I start to play games at young age. I don't even realize that my art talent is now being perished. I play video games around 5 hours a day. My young self don't even care about it become of stimulant effect of video games
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<p>
	My relatives are trying their best to limit my screentime but they failed because I'm having a violent reaction. This cycle of life is continuing till last month and now I'm trying to stop as I'm trying to revive my talent after a 12 years of abandoning if.
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<p>
	When I start to go back in arts last week, my works are not good as what it looks like before because my video game addiction take away my time to improve my talent.
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<p>
	Now, my art talent is now being awakened again by limiting my Video game time and by a consistent drawing practice.
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<p>
	I just compute my time wasted in video games and if turns out that almost 1 year worth of hours from my life are wasted. These precious hours should be spent to improve my arts.
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<p>
	Many art opportunities are wasted due to my video game addiction and now I regret it. I can't imagine that my art talent is wasted in my whole teenage era. I hope that listen to my parents to obey their screen time limit. I hope that I don't let a virtual world takes away my passion.
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<p>
	I'm so sorry for my art talent that I wasted just to have a meaningless adventure from the screen's pixel.
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<p>
	I feel guilty for wasting my talent and potential that a God is giving to me. I hope that I'm a professional artist today if I don't waste my life on video games. Such a regretful moment of my life.
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<p>
	For parents reading this, please never buy your kid a gaming devices In a young age or their potential will be wasted.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11012</guid><pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:31:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Part 2: Opinions about other forms of entertainment</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11053-part-2-opinions-about-other-forms-of-entertainment/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	All,
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<p>
	   Here is the second part of my post.  My last post was just a few minutes ago.  I played Dungeons and Dragons for the past 15 years.  It is a game I don't think I am addicted to.  It is a table top game that I used to play with a friend in person but he moved away so now I can only find people online to play with as I don't have many other friends locally.
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<p>
	Question is what do you think of other forms of entertainment like Dungeons and Dragons?  Are they also harmful or good?  Is playing either in person or online harmful? How do I know whether I should avoid a hobby or entertainment?  I am so confused even if I should give up gaming.  Thank-you so much for your time and help.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11053</guid><pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2024 09:51:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>I think I will quit all technology</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11147-i-think-i-will-quit-all-technology/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I quit gaming 2 years ago, watched a lot of YouTube, I can't have a good normal day I'm inside on my phone all day watching YouTube or procrastinating, so yeah im quiting technology. Some people we're meant to suffer, and have everything taken from them.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11147</guid><pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:10:01 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>A Loss of Environmental Awareness/Normally-Attuned Senses</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11060-a-loss-of-environmental-awarenessnormally-attuned-senses/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	One of my favourite things to do/feel of late has been showering and walking to the supermarket nearby. I would have been doing this the first thing in the morning, but it feels like an ordeal - until after exercise, when I know I need to clean myself up and can also tolerate the hot/cold water and the scrubbing/rinsing (my apologies if that's TMI).
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	--&gt; To the point, when I've been walking out of the door onto the street after another almost-whole day without gaming, I haven't even been half as happy/able to really check out my surroundings - people/drivers/bicycles, basically movements - before lumbering through the doors of the supermarket. 
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<p>
	Now, I am convinced that this might be a small price to pay for not spending ~5 hours a day being hyper-vigilant on my game, which messed with me even more, but I still lament the long-term ability it seemed I had to take care of my surroundings. Has anyone else felt this ability falling by the wayside?
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<p>
	To compound that loss, I recall my Dad solemnly saying that 'most people are only looking out for themselves.' I don't know how he, or even my brother, perhaps achieved the means to keep their heads held high, not reflecting or thinking too hard in public, so that they could keep an eye on everything whilst remembering why they were outside in the first place. I tend to think that with my own head held up, I am more liable to form proud, snap-judgments of people not doing/saying/feeling what I am - so I think and reflect at almost all times. Maybe it has to do with purpose and responsibility - my loose and comfortable 'uniform' and out-of-practice commanding tone I used to use with my 2 pet dogs on walks. I still have a trained eye, but I don't know what I'm looking out for much.
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<p>
	I am still hopeful, but I'd like to know what everyone else here thinks, and whether I should just be standing up straighter, or stiffening up my upper-lip, etcetera. I just don't want to take things for granted.
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<p>
	Peace,
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<p>
	~ Matt
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11060</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2024 00:09:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Anyone quitting smartphone totally?</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/9797-anyone-quitting-smartphone-totally/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hello guys! I saw Cam's youtube channel and it inspired me to change my life. I am actually not game addicted but I am internet&amp;smartphone addict. I am always on youtube facebook and reddit. And I want to change I will sell my pc, I will buy a very small(so it will be uncomfortable to use) laptop only using for my school. I will also quit my smartphone and gonna buy old phones. Which is not a "smart" one. I don't know if I can do or not. Basically I have zero friends and only thing that helps me with loneliness/boredom is internet right now. So whenever I try to put my phone off I feel cravings.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9797</guid><pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 13:44:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Trying to decide if I should quit or at least cut down on gaming in my situation</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11050-trying-to-decide-if-i-should-quit-or-at-least-cut-down-on-gaming-in-my-situation/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hi, I’m Shelby. I’m 25 and I have been trying to decide whether to quit / cut down on gaming . I came across game Quitters and this sub when looking up stuff about game burnout . I don’t actually play that much games ( that website says about 800 hours or 80 a year ) and only play about 1 hour or so at a time every few days , and only after I’ve got my school and some exercise done. I am also disabled with Bipolar 2 , Agoraphobia , autism and ADHD which makes it hard to go out and try new things, combined with only getting $100 a month in allowance and not having a job ( I’m working on getting one part time though ). I didn’t think I had a problem with gaming because I played so little but when I do play I find I’m not even enjoying it most of the time. I feel like I’m just compulsively playing to get the game done so I don’t miss out  when I do play and can’t wait to get to the next step and be closer to done. However despite this, I still feel like games are a huge part of my identity . I sometiems spend up to a few hours a day on my phone or iPad reading about games and I spend about 1/4 to 1/2 of my limited monthly allowance on games ( I have hundreds of games from bundles or sales that I mostly haven’t tried)<br />
	I’d like to at least cut down on gaming being part of my identity, kinda redefine myself . Right now I’m feeling like I’d rather read books or watch shows based on or similar to my favorite games than actually play them anyway. 
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<p>
	Advice and guidance / opinions would be appreciated as well as tips for other hobbies someone with anxiety, bipolar/autism and limited money can do to live more 
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11050</guid><pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:25:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Rage problems</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/11038-rage-problems/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	It's been a long time since I've posted here but I'm glad to be back again. This is completely unrelated to gaming but about life. Today I was playing football with my swim team and I was guarding this guy, let's call him X. So I was trying to stop X from getting the ball when he elbowed me in the stomach. I felt a sharp pain at first but then a burst of rage followed shortly after. "I want to KO this guy and send him to the ICU right now", I thought to myself. However, I saw how everyone else was having fun, and because I did not want to ruin the fun for everybody, I controlled my anger and moved on. Now sitting at my desk, I think to myself: if this happens again, should I go ahead and go full Mike Tyson mode on X and rip his face off? Or should I suck it up and move on?
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11038</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:37:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>A discussion with my coworker</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10998-a-discussion-with-my-coworker/</link><description><![CDATA[<p style="color:#000000;font-size:17px;">
	<span style="font-size:17px;">I’ve been trying to quit gaming off and on for years now. I am 26 this year. The first time I really wanted to quit was 2020 when the world changed and I was stuck online with everyone I knew waiting for the PS5. I said I was quitting gaming when the ps5 came out, only to last until a game on switch released in 2021 that made me go back. (I never convinced myself to sell the Nintendo switch) When I quit gaming during that time I couldn’t stop watching streamers. Somehow me quitting gaming turned into watching others play. It’s absolutely insane and the goal today is no gaming news, streamers, playing, nothing video game related. Now, 3 years after getting sucked back into the switch……… and I’m still here but worse, I bought 5 or so games that were new to me, so I just blew $200 or so, digital games. For years I would say tomorrow I’m quitting, but sunk cost has hit me hard. I have to accept the loss and move on.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:17px;">After battling this for years now having watched a gaming stream this morning, I was at work today and before closing somehow my coworker and I were talking about life and she mentioned her son and how he used to do jiu-jitsu and boxing. And now she says his main hobby is sitting on his games, talking to his friends he has never met. And hearing that crushed me, because I know what he has been sucked into. I found it fascinating how he got into all these, what seem to me very athletic and challenging hobbies. I’ve never considered jiu-jitsu in my life, I did try karate however. Only to now have dropped it all because of how gaming ruins lives. I talked to her a little bit but of course I don’t have the power to tell her kid to knock it off please for your own good. It really broke me and I hear about him and I reflect on my dropped hobbies, ruined by the gaming addiction.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:17px;">I officially am going to get rid of my Nintendo switch. I already deleted the games off my smartphone and PC months ago. I have been stuck watching streamers and playing Nintendo. I need the computer so I can’t just throw it away. The gaming news, videos, streamers needs to end.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:17px;">TL;DR I’ve tried quitting gaming permanently since 2020. What I heard tonight was an in person wake up call to hear about a coworker whose son is stuck in the addiction just like me. (Read paragraph 2) I am selling my switch, the gaming news, videos and streamers needs to end. I will continue to work on my language learning hobby and I want to start working out even if it’s 15min of weights at home.</span>
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">10998</guid><pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Can&#x2019;t even go through 1 day.</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10738-can%E2%80%99t-even-go-through-1-day/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hello everybody, I’m a gamer who loves gaming because of escapism, building my online personality, and my gaming friends. I’ve recently tried to quit, but I’m having a hard time. <br />
	 
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<p>
	Sometimes when I have a long work day I can quit for the day and then a few more days, but when the workload is less, I have a problem. I can maybe play no games for the morning, but then I play twice as much in the afternoon—then I play even more the next day <span><span class="ipsEmoji">😞</span> </span>
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<p>
	 
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<p>
	<span>Fortunately, when I can abstain for 24 hours straight, I tend to get less temptation after (though I have relapsed a LOT). However, this time I am determined for no relapse. </span><br />
	 
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<p>
	Does anyone maybe know a method that could help me through 1 day? For example, should I distract myself? Have a rest during a craving?
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">10738</guid><pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2023 15:51:05 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>I was a griefer, ask me anything</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10881-i-was-a-griefer-ask-me-anything/</link><description><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:center;">
	<strong>Confessions of a griefer</strong>
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<p>
	I'm going to throw in a summary of how I got into all of this. I'm going to try to be as brief as possible but it may answer some of the questions you might have. But the purpose of this thread is for me to come clean and to present this as an AMA. 
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<p>
	One time I was drinking with some dudes in college and I mentioned how hilarious it is to teamkill on Halo. One of the guys laughed but then said something to the effect that he wanted to punch guys like me in the face. I thought that was funny as fuck. Why do people take games so seriously? Even I have raged at games before. Why? What good does it do? But when you make it your mission to hold up a mirror to the world, you are also ruining yourself. It is a dark path. It changes you - you become more cynical and you surround yourself with toxic individuals. That <em>betrayal </em>sound still cracks me up, even though I haven't touched a Halo game in ages. 
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	How did this happen? I always had a troll streak in me. When I was a little kid I used to bother people on forums and chats and RPGs and I even had an alt account on Newgrounds where I would play a mentally deficient character and upload really bad flash. But I didn't see myself as a troll. The term hadn't even been invented yet. I never heard it until someone described me as the "best troll ever" while I was in a TF2 match doing one of my funny voices.  Somewhere along the line it became more fun for me to try to break the game than to play according to the real objectives. This was around the time things really started to escalate, in the 2010s. 
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	I think the seed was planted when my friend introduced me to myg0t rages when they were first becoming well known. This was a LONG time ago - maybe 2000 or 01...  the original myg0t not these slobs that carry the name today. At this time I was still somewhat innocent and I hated cheaters in games but for some reason learning about myg0t didn't make me want to punch anyone like getting teamkilled in halo does to my college friend. Let's fast-forward to the late 00's. I'd say around 2008 was when I really started to get into it. The griefing "scene" was going through something of a golden age and this was when goroncity and other groups were producing popular content. YouTube videos from these people really inspired me to not only chase lulz but to eventually go on to create some of my own content. Team Roomba's <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPoKaoJu0m4" rel="external nofollow">TF2 griefing sesisons</a> were also a major influence even though a lot of that was staged (fun fact: some years later I joined their server and talked shit and got banned). I remember being really high with my friend watching their videos and chuckling the entire time and we were convinced that this was our calling. I saw it as a way to commemorate the good times with friends. Of course, when you grow the fuck up you don't remember these times quite as well and most of the "friends" you had during them fade into history. 
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<p>
	Things started to change as I started to consider myself a 'griefer'. It became something I did with online friends rather than IRL friends more and more over time. I started firing up a game with the intention of griefing it, eventually more often than just playing it. It is definitely one of the factors in why my enjoyment of gaming waned. When you pick something apart that much, you kill some of the joy in it. 
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<p>
	All that said, I've had some pretty fun times with all of this. I've met both z0mby and CPF and I'm glad to see their battle on TFC is still enjoyed by the kids today. I've gotten to talk to and even collaborate with popular internet personalities. My griefing network kinda blended in with my regular social network with both positive and negative consequences. It did lead to some serious acting work more than once. 
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	There was never a specific method and there's a lot more to it than cyberbullying people (though during the 2014 dox wars that coincided with GamerGate it really did start to devolve into that). The greatest will call cyberbullying a cheap shot at best and it's generally frowned upon, but of course the greatest rarely become the most popular. I like to play as different characters each with their own annoying quirks. I like to find new ways to derail the game and sometimes all this takes is to get a few other players to go along with whatever stupid shit you are doing. You can put on your game tester hat and look for exploits. You can try to turn the war simulator into a soccer simulator. The only limit is your own creativity and free time. <br />
	There are three kinds of griefers from what I can see. There is the opportunist - that is the nerdy gamer who indulges in lulz when the lulz present themselves but does not actively seek them. There is the sociopath - a person who is a bully on and offline and just enjoys making others suffer. Then, there is the contrarian fedora tipper like me who gets enjoyment from doing things unconventionally and seeing how many ways rules can be broken and games can be played in ways not originally intended. Some of these people consider what they do to be a revolutionary act. It cleanses their online spaces of people they deem "cringe". It challenges the conventions of an industry gone foul, and as mentioned above, it holds a mirror to all of the nerdy gamers who need a reality check. But this is just pretentious self-justification. 
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<p>
	Griefers tend to have a lousy long-term life outcome. Many have already died young, mostly due to drugs or stupid things done while on drugs. Some have gotten themselves involved in serious offline criminal activity, as we see with nuisance and harassment streamers such as Frank Hassle. There are many exceptions to this: those who go on to apply their creative energy to something useful  and those who outgrow it and move on altogether. A lot of that has to do with the personality types as described. Some griefers are just amoral and hedonistic people and others are bored and mischievous. 
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<p>
	I'm not doing a great job of explaining any of this but I want to keep it short. There really could be a book about the griefing world with or without my autobiographical part. But I am here to answer any questions you may have about this topic. I would also consider this thread a form of apology to anyone I may have hurt over the years with my behavior, including myself. Have at it - this could be fun. 
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">10881</guid><pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Blogs about my Mental Health journey with Gaming and Psychosis</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10755-blogs-about-my-mental-health-journey-with-gaming-and-psychosis/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hello everyone!
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<p>
	My name is Samuel and I want to share two blogs I've made about my mental health journey.
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<p>
	My first blog is about how video game addiction and negative worldviews led to my psychosis: <a href="https://samuelmentalhealth.wordpress.com/mental-health-awareness-week-blog-how-addiction-and-cynical-worldviews-led-to-my-psychosis/" rel="external nofollow">https://samuelmentalhealth.wordpress.com/mental-health-awareness-week-blog-how-addiction-and-cynical-worldviews-led-to-my-psychosis/</a>
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<p>
	My second blog is about the changes I've made by quitting video games and how that is key to healing: <a href="https://samuelmentalhealth.wordpress.com/change-is-key-to-healing/" rel="external nofollow">https://samuelmentalhealth.wordpress.com/change-is-key-to-healing/</a>
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<p>
	Let me know what you think.
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<p>
	 
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<p>
	All the best,
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<p>
	Samuel
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">10755</guid><pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 10:44:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Blocking MOBA game from being downloaded on iphone</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10706-blocking-moba-game-from-being-downloaded-on-iphone/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Struggling with re-downloading Mobile Legends everytime I get triggered.  I've tried screentime, but it's just too easy to get around.  Any suggestions? 
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	Thanks, 
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	Zoe
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">10706</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:05:40 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>He's addicted but doesn't care</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10693-hes-addicted-but-doesnt-care/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	My son is an addicted gamer. He is 19 and has no motivation or ambition. He doesn't even get dressed in the morning and has no interest in hygiene. He has no plans for the future or to increase the quality of his life he doesn't drive or even leave the house aside from his part time job. A job that if I didn't keep track for him I think he would get fired. He doesn't have motivation to even make a change he says he doesn't know why but he just doesn't care about anything. How do I get him to want to make a change in his life?
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">10693</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:59:35 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>How do I get a girlfriend?</title><link>https://forum.gamequitters.com/index.php?/topic/10788-how-do-i-get-a-girlfriend/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I'm now a high school sophomore and have never had a girlfriend. Anyone got tips?
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